Project 86 "Drawing Black Lines" Vinyl Re-Release Now on Sale

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The now classic 2000 era Project 86 album, “Drawing Black Lines”, is available for purchase on Vinyl via the band’s own bandcamp page. There are two different color options, and it looks absolutely amazing. Randy, Alex, and Steven are a part of this and secured the rights to the vinyl re-release so it adds an extra layer of coolness. Get your copy right here before it sells out for good.

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Dave
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Dave
January 12, 2022 10:00 am

That’s cool! Did they purchase the rights from Schwab?

Nicholas
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January 12, 2022 11:37 am
Reply to  Dave

From what I am seeing, Schwab did not have the rights and had no idea they were even doing this.

R guy
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R guy
January 14, 2022 9:05 pm
Reply to  Nicholas

You are correct!

R guy
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R guy
January 14, 2022 9:05 pm
Reply to  Dave

Not necessary. In order to do a vinyl release the licensing rights need to be purchased from the owner of the publishing rights. For example, when zao did their recent vinyl reissues, they had to secure the licensing rights to those albums via a deal with capitol EMI. In theory, any schmoe with the money and time to navigate the hoops could negotiate an agreement to licensing rights and press a record release. I could press vinyl of Johnny q public extra*ordinary without ever being in contact with anyone from the band; if I could negotiate with the holder of… Read more »

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Nicholas
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January 12, 2022 9:21 am

I keep seeing that Randy, Alex, and Steven are doing this on there own, but is there a press release anywhere that states that? Just curious.

Nicholas
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January 12, 2022 11:59 am
Reply to  Nicholas

Ah, just saw it on box Randy’s and Band is on Fire’s facebooks. Cool. Gonna have to scrape out the piggy bank.

Dave
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Dave
January 12, 2022 12:05 pm
Reply to  Nicholas

The only thing I saw was on the Bandcamp listing. It mentions Randy, Alex, and Steve but not Schwab.

Nicholas
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January 13, 2022 11:57 am
Reply to  Dave

I finally found the info on the record distributor’s website, as well as Randy Torres’ instagram. Randy, Alex, and Steve indeed bought the rights to do this and did this on their own without Schwab even knowing they were doing it. I am guessing after Randy and Steve got banned from the P86 Facebook last year for questioning why the 20th anniversary DBL stuff was happening without them, they decided to take matters into their own hands and celebrate the album in their own way. It’s a weird situation, but I enjoy both versions of the band, the original four… Read more »

R guy
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R guy
January 14, 2022 9:12 pm
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I’m really surprised there wasn’t a vinyl release last year with all the other pomp Schwab did for the thing. The drama makes me sad as they were a top three band for me through rival factions. I won’t say it’s all Schwab but following things for years it’s hard for me to get past a lot of the ways he has approached things, or things he’s said, or the past year in particular. The other interesting part is that vinyl plants have been backed like crazy for almost two years. Even pre-covid the vinyl resurgence led to increasing delays.… Read more »

Nicholas
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January 15, 2022 12:31 pm
Reply to  R guy

It’s such a tough situation. From Andrew’s perspective, I understand staking your legacy on the Project 86 name and not wanting it to end until you’re ready. I legitimately enjoy the three records he’s made with the new guys. Also, those new guys have been in the band for nearly a decade, so I am sure they feel some sense of ownership for the Project 86 name, as well, by this point, even though the had nothing to do with the band’s first 15 years. At the same time, I wish Andrew had been more up front and open about… Read more »

Dave
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Dave
January 18, 2022 6:54 am
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Thanks for sharing your insight, Nicholas. You are right on the money! While I have enjoyed both eras of P86, it is fair to say that Schwab’s methods at times have certainly detracted from my overall enjoyment of the current band. I feel bands like Spoken and Disciple did a much better job of moving forward with different lineups. (Maybe better band relationships facilitated that, but it’s still worth noting.) I am happy to see Randy, Steve and Alex doing something P86-related. And I can honestly say that my interactions with them over the years were nothing but positive and… Read more »

Nicholas
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January 18, 2022 9:30 am
Reply to  Dave

Enjoying this conversation! I agree, less is sometimes most definitely more. Spoken and Disciple are great examples of doing this well. This is also bringing to mind the current state of Zao, which I think is the polar opposite of the current state of Project 86. After all of the high drama of Zao’s early 00’s (breaking up on stage, losing every founding member, etc.), Zao have found a way to move forward where every one of the legion of members and ex-members are on good terms, and every single member or ex-member gets a fair percentage payout on every… Read more »

R guy
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R guy
January 19, 2022 7:03 am
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Zao is so far from the drama of 20 years ago! It’s wild how cool the core of the band are and how they work to respect and honor the history that made the band.

Nicholas
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January 19, 2022 1:18 pm
Reply to  R guy

It’s the most bizarre confluence of chill, ultra-talented and artistic personalities. I think Scott having that extremely rare combination of ambition, organization, and humility has ensured their survival and continued success.

R guy
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R guy
January 19, 2022 7:02 am
Reply to  Dave

I find the “endlessness” and monthly Patreon model of the current p86 funding very distasteful and uncomfortable. It’s one thing to crowdfund. But constantly badgering people to pay you monthly for……

Nicholas
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January 12, 2022 9:21 am

*their own

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