wait, we are talking about emery, right?

60% of the time all the time.

But I also agree with tyler h that if people don’t want debate like this stick to only posting about music and avoid other issues like religion/Christianity and politics. Otherwise it’s inevitable that this will happen.

I personally chose to avoid posting my responses to the various parts of the prayer and to the different comments. But I will say is that this was a political prayer and nothing more.

versus

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honestly, who is gonna win that fight?

…get it?

GENRE WARS.

i know i’ve made my fair share of negative comments about things i don’t like, but what i don’t understand is the personal attacks.

what ever happened to the “in love” part of things? :-/

having said that…

honestly…are we arguing over a read prayer with eyes open? this i find more disturbing than anything. because we aren’t under any real persecution, like Christians are in countries like China, we spend all of our time debating useless stuff instead of uniting in Christ under the word of God. where there are divisions, are you not carnal, as paul wrote to the corinthians? ugh. i’m carnal. i wish it weren’t so.

It was so classic.

I’ve taken three years of seminary at a Bible college in a fairly conservative school and I never read anything by Miller that I’d take major issue with [as an aside: I didn't mention Seminary in order to prove I am right or build myself up, but simply to say I been around hardcore theology type stuff].

As for reading a prayer from a pre-written note, I really don’t believe it’s more or less Spirit led than spur of moment prayers. God can inspire those who are nervous and need to prepare themselves, even if it is before the actual act.

The Emergent church seems to get a bum rap. I can see many flaws within the movement, but no more than i can see within conservative Christianity. The pendulum swung too far and now the change has happened and in the emergent church it is swinging the opposite direction.

The danger is when it get nears the apex.

i don’t want to start an argument, but i do think that miller has done a lot of good for those people who are sick of Christ being seen as a white middle-class republican.

not everybody fits that lifestyle, and to be honest, a lot of countries see the republicans (their foregin and environmental policies specifically) as doing a lot of damage to other cultures and the environment.

bottom line - some christians feel that christ is bigger than the left/right debates, and that what a lot of american preachers proclaim as gospel is (to the outside world) actually cultural tradition.

that’s the end of my rant, and if i’ve offended anyone, i’m very sorry.
have a good day kids.

“he didn’t pray anything. he read from the teleprompter.”

” I’m sorry but when you pray you don’t pray from something written you pray from your soul.”

/end Quotes

Some of you guys are seriously slamming him for writing his prayer beforehand? Can we move to something that’s actually important in this case, like for instance, the content?

Do we have trouble with the Lord’s Prayer, then, too? And do we have to be so harsh in our criticism even when there IS some substance to your point?

So I guess when someone sings a praise song or hymn in church they don’t mean it either.

You can read more on why Cameron turned it down after originally accepting the invitation at http://relevantmagazine.com/releblog/category/cameronsqa/
He’ll still be taking part in a “Faith in the ‘08 Election” panel on Thursday afternoon at the DNC.