New Anti-Piracy Plan to Go Into Effect by the End of the Year

By Brandon J. on October-10-2012 | Filed under Purchase Academic Papers.

New Anti-Piracy Plan to Go Into Effect by the End of the Year

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40 Responses to 'New Anti-Piracy Plan to Go Into Effect by the End of the Year'

  1. Bryan Macdonald Masters Thesis On Gangs. says:

    Lol, wow. Patriot act?

  2. Luke Foster says:

    Well, better stock up

  3. I’m a dummy. Explain like I’m 5, please.

  4. iskelly87 says:

    I really don’t see ISPs terminating people’s services. How will they make money if they terminate their customers.

  5. jim says:

    stupid records labels.

  6. Yorik Bruhl says:


  7. John says:

    So when they say major ISPs does that mean if your ISP is a little local company you’re okay? I don’t pirate but I don’t take kindly to my privacy being violated either.

  8. Karl says:

    This doesn’t seem unreasonable at all. It gives people plenty of warning. It just asks that you don’t steal music. Which probably falls under one of the 10 commandments anyway.

  9. Zac says:

    Yeah, stock up on movies and shows.

    No. People download music because the cost is amazing. I download a few times a week, and I also have over 200 cds in my room.

    Do people really think that a song is worth 99 cents?

    Think about it, if you want to go to the store and buy a deluxe album, say its 17.99.

    Ok, maybe you work a minimum wage job, like most people do. Ok, lets do some basic math, work 3 hours roughly 22-23$. Take off tax, should be around 17 or 18 dollars. 3 HOURS FOR A CD.

    People have real expenses, and the music dealers expect people to give up 1/4 of a paycheck for music instead of mortgage and car payments.

    Support the bands yeah- go to shows and help em out, rock your head off to em and buy a shirt, but musicians see NO money from sales in stores.

    • Mike M says:

      This is not exactly true. Artists still do make money from record sales, especially if they are the primary song writers. And let’s remember the artist’s that are doing the artwork also. It doesn’t all go to the labels. And we should also consider that some of these indie artists are making less than minimum wage. It’s frowned upon if someone steals a painting from a gallery so why do the same with music?

    • DT says:

      This is interesting. Zac, as I read your comment, I felt you were saying people should get all the music they want at a sliding-scale price that is based on income and, most importantly, the consumer’s volume of musical want. Is that accurate?

      Have you ever put together a song on your own? written the music, written the lyrics, tracked instruments, tracked vocals, tweaked the audio, and balanced the mix? I have. If you have and you really think .99 cents for one song is too high, It’d be interesting to hear more about that and how you feel about other luxury products that cost money like coffee, video games, and action figures/dolls.

      I personally don’t think blaming prices (instead of realizing we may not be able to afford all that we want), blaming music dealers for their greedy expectations (instead of taking accountability for our greedy expectations), and blaming the lack of funds musicians see from sales in stores (instead of being accountable to the laws of the market and land) excuses stealing music. Work more or want less is my solution. It’s on the individual consumer. If one doesn’t like it, one can want nothing instead of less.

    • Zac says:

      DT, I like your argument, to answer your questions, I have written, arranged and recorded songs in a few bands.

      I’m just fed up with how much some cd’s cost now. Everytime I go to the store, i see oh sleeper’s albums both for 18$ each. I mean really?
      I’m in love with having the real copy of albums, even vinyl when I can.

      But when the music companies wonder why they aren’t making the sales they used to, it’s not because of people illegally downloading music, because there will always be people who do that, and always devoted people who buy music. Its the fact that music is getting to the point where people can’t afford to buy the new cd that everyone wants every week.

      Same goes for video games, another thing you brought up. I remember when ps1 games were 20? or 30? Brand new. then ps2/xbox era came and they bumped up to 50. Now 60? Once people grow up from the high school stage and the “mom and dad will pay for it”, they all find out that once they start working, they don’t have the money for 60$ games, it’s around 1/4’s of a weeks pay for some people.

      There needs to be some kind of revision, or something.

      I will try to buy albums when I can, but when the industry, and metallica complains about money sales, they shouldn’t immediately blame the illegal downloaders, even being the free loaders that they are.

    • DT says:

      I see, so the 17.99 wasn’t hyperbole–exaggerating prices, that really is what bothers you. I’m with you on not paying $18 for an album, but I still think it’s hyperbole in the sense that you seem to be generalizing that as the norm.

      I picked up AILD’s new album at Target the week of release for $8 I think. Hot Topic has albums the week of release for $10 usually and for $12 after that, and Best Buy seems to follow the same pricing model for the most part. Unless you only have an FYE around you, or want music with smaller distribution that can only be found at an FYE type store, $18 is an inaccurate generalization.

      Even then, you can always shop online if you have/get a credit card and there are places that offer really cheap or free shipping. It’s the consumer’s responsibility to find the lower price and tell the market what they’re willing to pay.

      I was curious about .99 cents per song because I think more about what went into creating the music when I’m paying for one song, than I do when I pay for an album. When buying an album I may pay less attention to the individuality of each song and the work that went into them. When focusing on each song I buy individually, .99 cents starts to seem like not enough. It’s fair enough that you don’t share that perspective. It’s one of those personal insights.

      I too am surprised $60 on games has stuck when it had been $50 for so long. Then again, the gaming industry is not what it used to be. If you look into what it takes to make a Modern Warfare or Elder Scrolls currently, it’s more expensive than most Hollywood summer blockbusters. Other games do ride the coattails of those price-setters, again just like Hollywood. I still think lowering the price of a luxury item based on consumer wants is too far. Basic need items… you would have me there.

    • DT says:

      Also, PS1 games were $50 unless you were buying really low quality indie titles or Greatest Hits games.

    • Zac says:

      Pretty much, I mean yesterday I went to FYE to pick up the new muse album, 16$ for standard edition, not happening.

      I don’t know, sometimes when I think about it, a see a dollar a song being expensive, and other times not.

  10. Britt says:

    Yeah it just makes us over consumers. When people aren’t buying albums they are just downloading every meaningless song that sounds good. When you buy music you check it out before you buy it.

    And besides all that we should have more honor than to say “Well they don’t get any of the money anyway.” We are still called to do the right thing. It is whenever someone shortcuts the system that it all gets twisted. If people didn’t download millions of albums and movies every year then record companies would give more money to the artist for the album sales, in turn keeping record companies in check and not profiteering, and in turn there would be less bands signed (those also probably being the “generic metal bands” that everyone hates.) It would hold record companies to integrity because they would have to put out the best product in order to compete and not just hit the “Rise” button and make a record out of a band.

    This view probably isn’t completely correct and I know all bands and record companies can’t be generalized into this mold but whenever there is competition then the best compete. When there is scheming then people scheme back in order to stay afloat.

    Just my thoughts

  11. Mason says:

    I’ve always wondered after a band breaks up and I buy an album of theirs (after they’re broken up) who gets the money? The band, the label, the place I bought it at or a combination of them all? Who?

    • Brandon J. says:

      Band members will continue to receive royalty checks even years after breaking up. I laughed the other day because Mikee Bridges (Sometime Sunday/Tragedy Ann/etc) took a picture of his royalty check from Tooth & Nail that was about $13. Sometime Sunday released two albums on Tooth & Nail way back in the 90s.

  12. xwritingonthewallsx says:

    This is Obamas fault

  13. jdski says:

    Why isn’t the government doing something useful with their time and money? Like- donating to cancer research, helping the homeless, or cutting spending? Why is everyone so focused on piracy instead of bigger issues?

    • ^^ The ? of the century, lol.

    • DT says:

      It’s no longer limited to music as it was in the Napster days. Movies and TV are included. I’m sure crews, performers, and investors (Who may not be strictly limited to the film/tv market and thus be tied to other economic markets) in all of those industries suffer, and so does advertising that is usually attached to those mediums–specifically TV. If advertising suffers, existing well known products may not suffer, but new products attempting to establish a base might and there go some new jobs. It is a real economic issue and thus is related to cancer research, helping the homeless, and managing spending.

      I don’t know how big it is or isn’t at the moment, and I don’t think the real threat is all about TV advertising but I mentioned TV ads to serve as an example that the impact of piracy may be greater than you think. Shoot, if you can steal what you want, why work hard or be an entrepreneur? Just make enough to cover your needs and jack the rest. There goes capitalism. No incentive to be part of the machine. That’s extreme, but I don’t doubt it’s a factor for some slackers out there that results in even more… slacking?

      Wow. I haven’t sounded like this much of a conservative in a long time. Time to end this. Anyway, my two cents, piracy can’t go completely unopposed without some detrimental effects to the economy as a whole because of complex intersections regarding different markets and the work force. Is this act the right move? No idea :)

  14. Austin says:

    My band just released our first album through CDBaby, iTunes, and stuff around two weeks ago, and it’s super frustrating to see that there are already a billion places where people can illegally download our album on the internet. We’re a really young band and don’t rely on music as a full-time job; the rhythm guitarist and I are still in high school, so we can’t tour, only play shows close to us on a monthly basis. However, every dollar we get from selling CDs is going straight to get us to the studio again to record, but it’s not like we’re getting that much money from sales….it costs a lot to record at a good studio. People don’t realize how much not paying for music hurts bands like mine who are trying to get on their feet and continually make music. I can’t imagine what would happen if we were trying to live off of what we sold now. I know that our case isn’t the general mold that bands fit into, and there are a lot of other factors that tie into record sales when you’re signed and stuff. But yeah, it can be somewhat discouraging, which is all the more reason why our passion for music must revolve around the glory of God if we’re going to continue doing what we’re doing.

    • Zac says:

      Austin, I can share that concern and frustration.

      But, it really helps to look at it like this,
      I go into my band knowing that I won’t make money or profit. I do it because I love playing rock n roll and i want to share that with others.

      So, when my band releases an ep or album, and 3 people buy it and 50 download it somewhere else, it would kinda make me happy, the fact that people dig the music, means something. Maybe they’ll come to a show

    • Yorik Bruhl says:

      Dang a billion places?

      But for real. It sucks. But also, I would ecco Zac. I make music for art, not for money. I know it takes money to make (unless your into elecrto), but…ya. I hear you however.

  15. Ty says:

    Peoples sense of entitlement really bums me out. If someone wanted their album stolen, they’d put it up for free. If they aren’t, then they don’t want it stolen. I stopped stealing records 2 years ago, I don’t have as much music anymore, but I enjoy what I do have more. Also, I don’t use spotify, but I hear it’s great for people finding music. It is, however, the worst for compensating bands. I think the pomegranates said its like $00.0019 per listen.

  16. I figured that something along these lines would come around eventually. Out of curiosity, would this have any effects on websites that offer free legal downloads? (Like here at IVM and sites like Itickets and new release Tuesday).

  17. Dustin Higginbotham (bloodyghost777) says:

    This is a real delicate situation, I should say. I agree and disagree at the same time. Most bands don’t make that much money at all… You gotta remember that they pay for recording/mixing/mastering[small band= $1,000-$5,000 | large band= $30,000-$100,000], merch[printing shirts=around $5 per shirt|$15-$20 for sweatshirts/hoodies], artwork/prints[$200-$2,000 depending on amount/quality], pictures[$50-$500(or even more) depending on quality/amount], shows[depending on size of band|Cornerstone was pretty expensive… $50-$250 for one show], travel/gas[around $100 a day for van/motor home style], eating expensives[Haste The Day on their first couple years together spent a total of $5 per person per day…. that real cheap], etc. It’s A LOT of money. The only way they make it back is by selling cds and merch [and shows… depending on the size of the band]. And where does all that money go to that they make? to all those expenses.

    Now would this be a big of a deal if EVERY metal lover bought CDs/merch and supported their local scene? PErsonally, I don’t think it would be a problem at all.
    Now I do download music [dare I say illegally] illegally, quit often. I have a very large library and when I first got into metal… that’s all I did. Just over a year ago… I realized that I need to support my scene and bands if I want them to stick around because it’s such a hard life and thing to do. Since then, I spent thousands of dollars on shows, merch, and cds. I know I don’t spend the most but I spend a great some of my money from my paycheck (at least 50%) from my part time job. I literally can’t keep spending to receive more music… there is a limit but I want to discover, listen, and support other bands as much as I possibly can… hence I will download some stuff still. If I had the choice and enough money, I would buy all the cds from every band I listen to and support them by buying merch and going to every show possible but I physically and financially can’t. I know people who have crazy boat loads of money yet don’t spend a dime on music… I don’t know… I felt like writing this all… what do you guys think?

    (I apologize for any writing/grammar errors… I really don’t want to go through what I just wrote and edit, hahaha.)

  18. Travis Aker says:

    First of all I have a huge fan of music,I support every band that I listen to. I am sick and tired of seeing every band break up because people are illegally downloading music. That the reason why a lot of the bands don’t stick around long. That the reason why I ask myself this question especially as a Christian is stealing the bands music wrong yes it is,its like me going out and stealing a car,or something else in a store. I have spent less than probably 10.00 on each cd with a exception of a few that I had to pay ridiculous price form hint out of print stuff. Most recently I went to a indie store in Columbus OH and spent 6.99 for a The Overseer cd and spent 4.99 on the old The Crucified Cd. which turned out to be less than 13.00 for both cd’s which is cheaper that I get off of Itunes or Just go out and support your band,and quit stealing the music.

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