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I’m guessing we’re going to get some comments on this video.
Wow, essentially a horror movie in three minutes.
Maybe put a disclaimer in the news. I’m fine with that but some people don’t like to watch such stuff.
It is quite graphic.
This was great! And the reality of sin and hell are graphic.
Yes, I know that. The cross is the most graphic moment of them all. I was just saying that some people don’t like to watch stuff like that. For example, I know a few of my friends who are Christians who won’t watch an 18 (highest rating in the UK) because it isn’t good for them emotionally/spiritually, whereas I’m quite happy to watch them if I really want to because it doesn’t have the same effect on me.
Some people will be well aware of the graphic reality of sin but don’t need a music video to tell them that and it might actually have a negative effect on them because of their personality. Hence me saying a disclaimer might be useful.
Peace to you Travis.
Pretty sweet video.
Awesome!! Reminds me of some of Tool’s videos. Totally suits their style of music, too.
From Alternative Press’s posting of the video:
“This video is a representation of the filthiness of sin that ultimately leads to hell and that it doesn’t matter if someone calls themselves a Christian with their mouth if they are not producing fruit in their lives. There are a lot of Christians out there who are fakes and will try and deceive you for power, money, or other lusts of the flesh especially in these last days. So it’s up to genuine, real, and courageous Christians to stand up and speak truth and not compromise.” – Brook Reeves
I like the video.
It actually reminded me of a nine inch nails video (from back in the day) but the christian version.
i like travis’s comment “sin and hell are graphic.”
Man, I loved this video. Very dark but it has a very deep and lasting effect. Well done.
Also, this CD still gets played by me a ton. Amazing release.
Great video! I’ve been hoping they would do something like this instead of another performance video because they have great imagery.
That was absolutely fantastic. Kinda nice seeing a “rock” video which is actually appealing in its creativity.
I kept watching to see what I was missing but I never saw it. I’m not even bothered by the graphic nature, the video just doesn’t do anything for me. Then again, maybe it wasn’t meant for me.
I don’t always understand what people consider “graphic.” Watching someone getting sliced someone open would be graphic, but people often associate the sight of blood itself as graphic. And so on….
yeah I really agree with you on this one Loren. and the only thing that kind of creeped me out was the hissing cockroaches coming out of the dudes mouth
Impeding Doom is a solo Project now?
haha noticed that too
Cool video. Glad it wasn’t them jamming like every other video seems to be these days.
Yeah, like every other video Impending Doom put out.
Cool Video! Maggots were nasty though hahaha
Very disturbing video. Not so much because of the content itself, but is anyone afraid that the super dark and violent tone of the video will be more appealing to the audience they’re reaching out to? In a culture that so blatantly glorifies darkness, I think it’s especially important to put emphasis on the light. Any thoughts?
Yeah I think it has too much of a worldly vibe. When trying to be set apart, this video doesn’t do much justice. :/ I think it all depends on how many people will actually grasp hold of the lyrics. They mean something only to those willing to listen.
I feel unclear about what you’re saying Lucas: “but is anyone afraid that the super dark and violent tone of the video will be more appealing to the audience they’re reaching out to?” You seem to be saying it’s a bad thing that the video would be more appealing to who they’re reaching out to, but it sounds like an obvious good thing, to me. I’m not afraid of that.
People who darkness appeals to may not want, or won’t take seriously, rainbows and ponies telling telling them about Jesus. Nor may people who’ve lived in darkness, perhaps not by choice, identify with an emphasis on light. Credibility and realism are important in communication. I think one doesn’t have to always emphasize light to guide someone toward light, so the video is good.
I wish people would stop using the terms ‘set apart’ and ‘in the world but not of the world.’ Their abuse has made Christianity isolating in a cult-like way.
Well if that wasn’t a slap in the face :P
Aw, I’m sorry metalhunter. I wasn’t sure of a better way to put that. I could have said, “I disagree,” I guess?
Ha ha its okay. I understand your point. I, myself don’t preach it to the point to where it’s over used. Sometimes I get put under spot light as it seems by some people, because I’m a Christian, and we’re called to be different and be a light to this world.
And I totally get what you are saying below as well.
DT, I completely agree with you.
Who’s to say something is dark and giving into the world?
When your parents scold you because you have an album with a skull on it and yell “THat’s EVIL.”
Yeah, it’s all mostly close mindness with people.
People CHOOSE to get offended over what they either don’t understand or don’t like.
“I wish people would stop using the terms ‘set apart’ and ‘in the world but not of the world.’ Their abuse has made Christianity isolating in a cult-like way.”
Boy do I agree with you there! I think the verse about not conforming to the world (Romans 12:2 I believe) is better just applied to ourselves. Although it’s a good reminder, Christians tend to take the verse way too far when preaching it to others.
“I think one doesn’t have to always emphasize light to guide someone toward light, so the video is good.”
I don’t know what to think about that statement or that whole second paragraph for that matter. If one doesn’t emphasize any light to a lover of darkness how does said person find Christ? And who of us really identifies with the light before they find it? Also I don’t believe for a second Jesus is synonymous with ponies and rainbows to most people in the rock culture, but that’s just me. Of course I hold the strange belief that Jesus is more real in people’s minds then they give Him credit for. :)
Btw DT, I’m not at all trying to challenge you because I’m not even 100% sure I’m right. Just trying to get where you’re coming from. It’s obvious with this thread and past ones that you and I think VERY differently. :) Hahaha!
Ha, it’s cool and those are great questions. To explore what I mean about the darkness, it helps if a person can relate. People who are part of church culture easily identify with positive imagery and a lot of ‘light.’ They will hear anything ‘light’ oriented quite easily.
‘Lovers of darkness’ aren’t going to be as optimistic, hopeful, or trusting of a message of light. Building credibility or trust through agreeing on realities of darkness is a better bridge of communication, and while the goal may be to lead someone to ‘light’ it doesn’t require light being infused every step of the way if trust is being developed.
People who ‘love darkness’ don’t love it just because. They ‘love’ it because it’s what they know, it’s the world they exist in. They grew up with an alcoholic parent, they were beaten or abused excessively, they saw their parents fighting physically, there’s a myriad of things that can happen and overtake a person’s life and they’re not the kinds of things that are cured in an instant by a salvation prayer.
Think about people you know with these kinds of backgrounds that hate God or think the concept of a God is stupid. Do they really hate God? Is it an intellectual position of disbelief they’re taking? Or is it that they don’t trust God is offering anything to them because the odds are so stacked against them on a daily basis? I think it may be a trust issue more often than not. If it is, some band or some minister saying something positive may not always be enough for them to develop the hope to (insert churchy salvation term here). That light offered may actually seem like a false hope, something unattainable and unfamiliar–easily dismissed as lies.
A band or minister that embraces some of that darkness they identify with, that’s someone they can trust. Once they have that trust, they’ll be more receptive to hearing about some light. This answers one of your questions, if a song doesn’t talk about anything positive at all, that may not be bad either. It can be a healing thing simply to identify with a pain or darkness and not feel alone in it. Of course, it’s great when a band can offer more than that in another song or something.
Demon Hunter is a nice example of what I’m talking about. I don’t think they bridge the secular/Christian gap too much, but for Christians who’ve grown up without Christian parents, or had terrible ‘Christian’ parents, and have experienced physical, emotional, and sexual abuse… that band is a powerful voice they can relate to. The lyrical imagery Demon Hunter uses is all really dark. Maybe that imagery is cool to the privileged Christian, but for people familiar with darkness it’s real, they can identify with it, and they know it’s a band they can trust because they can relate with darkness. Out of that trusting relationship can come powerful stuff for the listener. Like hope… You asked who identifies with the light before they find it? I won’t answer that, but I do believe we identify with hope before we embrace the light.
Now this is an entertaining music video. The devil mask was a little goofy, but whatevs.
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